Wednesday, 30 May 2007

What skis should Dan get?

Ok, so I'm thinking that it is finally time to add another set of skis or two to my collection. Current thoughts are that the next two sets of skis to get should be:

  1. A fat, floaty, big mountain ski of sorts. Something that will work quite nicely in the deeper snow over in NZ, or going down the chutes at club lake. Current suggestions around this are something like a Dynastar Legend XXL or something from the Kingswood range.
  2. A twin tippy ski that's suitable for general mucking around in the park and pipe, possibly something that's fairly comfortable going sideways at speed.
So, what do you guys think?

15 comments:

carolinaroman said...

Sounds like Option 1. might be for you, a set of skis with a little more performance - would be awesome for NZ snow conditions in the Club Fields ...your current set of skis might just suffice for what you plan to do under Option 2., all that general mucking about :-)

Jynks said...

I think Dan has enough skies. he should spend the money on something constructive,... no NOT toy helicopters. :P

T7 said...

But with me around the toy Helicopters become destructive!

carolinaroman said...

Just like a certain someone I know, who almost destructed the coffee table legs while flying those things indoors! ;-p

Anyway, I think Dan wants skis regardless ;-)

T7 said...

Dan go check out these threads over at TGR
The ski review link thread
Recommended ski and bindings list

T7 said...

Well I might as well weigh in. for 1. XXLs just look so $$$. Go big or go home skis. Hellbents look intriging, sidecut ski with some reverse camber, worth a try I think. Kingswoods are sexy in the flesh too. Just buy 100mm plus in the least.

For 2. Any 80 - 90mm twin. I'd lean to the 80mm side if it was to be a quiver of 2. but with your current boards in the quiver I think I'd go for something more like 90mm.

We should visit Rythm together. Some good stuff in there.

Richard

Marvin said...

Hi,
Had a look at Volkl Karmas/ Gotamas
or Movement gladiators/goliaths for something with more grunt.

Sid said...

Choose wisely young padawan...

If you want a big ski, but want to take it BC, just remember it must go up as well as it goes down

Danger Mouse said...

Okay,
so the general idea is that I'll definitely be getting the fat things this year, and probably the park skis a bit later on in the season.

So options so far for the big fat things (cause I'll need them for UnZud)

Dynastar Legend Pro XXLs - $1749 with bindings worth about $300
http://www.rhythm.net.au/product.php?productid=20626&cat=323&page=1
Dynastar's latest offering for freeride skiers, the XXL comes in one length, 194 cm, with massive 132-109-122 mm dimensions. The Pro XXL is built with the usual quality we expect from Dynastar. Powerful and effective on all kinds of snow, the Pro XXL has torsion box construction with a wood/Rohacell core, and vertical side walls. Offering exceptional flotation in powder, the Pro XXL is designed specifically for strong expert off piste skiers.

Feel this 194 centimeter long ski's unparalleled stability at mach speeds and haul your ass over any snow conditions without the fear of losing control

* Sidecut: 132-109-122 mm
* Radius: 41 m @194 cm

Dynastar Legend Pros - $1749 mit bindings
http://www.rhythm.net.au/product.php?productid=20625&cat=323&page=1
Stability at high speeds: Extra wide sidecut, torsion box. Powerful and effective on all kinds of snow: Mixed wood-Rohacell core, full-length vertical sidewalls.
Exceptional flotation in powder: Extra-wide sidecut, shaped tip.

Sidecut:
124-97-116
Size / Radius
* 176cm / NA
* 186cm / 29m
* 194cm / 32m

Kingswood Fat - $1250
http://www.kingswoodskis.com/html/kingswood-skis.html

Our more modest powder ski.

dimensions: 185cm 136/116/128
price: NZ$1295
sidecut radius: 34m

dimensions: 170cm 136/110/128
price: NZ$1250
sidecut radius: 27.0m

Volkl Mantra - $1149 no bindings
(http://www.rhythm.net.au/product.php?productid=20739&cat=329&page=1)
Sensorwood Core. Power construction
Lengths: 170, 177, 184, 191 cm
Side cut: 130-94-113mm
Radii:21.2@170, 23.2@177, 25.5@184, 27.9@191

If you don't like the Mantras, it's probably because you haven't tried them. SKI MAGAZINE

Volkl Gotamas - $1149 no bindings
http://www.rhythm.net.au/product.php?productid=20736&cat=329&page=1
A superb big-mountain deep powder ski, the Gotama floats like a dream in the soft and responds well in all snow conditions. Built with high performance Frame technology, the Gotama comes with a Sensor Woodcore core. Power construction. Twin Tip

Lengths:168, 176, 183, 190cm
Side cut: 133-105-124mm
Radii:21.1@168, 23.5@176, 25.9@183, 28.5@190

Fun to ride even when it hasn't snowed recently ...Its hard-snow performance is unmatched in this category.

Could be okay, but Chris has these so they may not be all that good ;-)

Movement Gladiators

Can't find these yet?

Movement Goliaths

http://www.movementskis.com/en/specs/spec_gol.html

Damn websites with music - crappy egotistical designer types - grrrrrr! :-(

Where can we get these in Australia?

A BIG addition to our line, the Goliath was developed with our team rider Evariste Berney, our new monster is out to crush the super-fat ski market. Big skis demand big speeds to really enjoy…staying in the alpine is perhaps a good idea. Unlike other big skis however, testers have commented again and again that this ski has amazing stability, versatility and easy release from turns. It is a friendly giant! Winner of Powder Magazine’s Skier’s Choice and Ski Press Magazines Award of Excellence and Award of Best Buy.

Radius: 32 Fibers: Dynamic Tri-Axial Fiber
Widhts: 135-108-124 Wood Core: Okume / Poplar + Power Rail Beech Composit
Ski Weight: 2.35 Kg (+/-20gr) Specs: Sidewall CTS

carolinaroman said...

DM, that is great research ;-)

Sid said...

Yes, but has it made his choice any easier? Methinks there are too many options.
Mind you the Kingswoods sound pretty cool, as do the Legend pros. I reckon the XXLs may be a tad more ski than required, but that's just conservative old me, T7 will tell you different....

T7 said...

Cool Dan do you want these ski's for aus BC or resort. I agree with Chris that much more than 90mm in Australian BC conditions can get to be a real pain. If you only want a pow ski, I would go eithe the XXL just for being such a massive beast of a ski. The Kingswood fats, or the Goliath over the Gotamas. Chris has Gotamas already and the Goliatih has more taper, so less nosediving in fluf.

That way the twinnies could be the BC ski.

Richard.

T7 said...

The Pro is rumoured to be difficult in deep fresh snow as it has a very stiff shovel. The XXL is rumoured to have a shovel soft enough, and more surface area to solve this problem.

Hydrophilica said...

Having given this much thoughtful consideration... in my expert opinion I would have to recommend... that... it has to come down to the one with the best graphics and of cause bindings to match!

Marvin said...

http://www.obsidianskis.com/OBSIDIAN2.html

another option